The Volokh Conspiracy

"Larry, we miss you. . . . Don't get too comfortable.":
Both Andrew Sullivan and Josh Marshall are speculating about who might replace Attorney General Alberto Gonzales if Gonzales is forced to step down. I think the most likely pick would be Larry Thompson, the Deputy AG (the #2 person at Justice) from 2001 to 2003. Thompson was in the running for the AG slot last time, and he was also mentioned as a possible Supreme Court pick in 2005. However, Thompson was passed over both times and now serves as General Counsel of PepsiCo.

  Thompson seems like a natural pick if Gonzales is forced out. On one hand, he's an experienced former insider who is apparently very well-liked in the Administration. On the other hand, he has enough independence from the Administration (having been out of government for 4 years, and himself being a former U.S. Attorney) that it would give DOJ a fresh start.

   Of course, we don't yet know Gonzales's future, so right now this is just a hypothetical question. But hey, we law professors love our hypothetical questions. (Incidentally, the title of the post is a quote from a speech president Bush gave in 2005 in Buffalo, as detailed in this story.)
Mahan Atma (mail):
Ah yes, author of the infamous (and arguably unconstitutional) "Thompson Memo".

How could we forget...
3.16.2007 4:29pm
margate (mail):
With all that's gone on, and been unearthed, since LT left DOJ, why would he want to return . . . and appear before a Senate Judiciary Committee controlled by Democrat[] Senators?

Was Thompson, as Deputy AG, aware of the administration's move toward legalizing torture -- okay, waterboarding?

Was Thompson, as DAG, aware of domestic spying?

What did Thompson know and when did he know it?

I think LT would rather kick back and sip a Pepsi than face the flack sure to be fired his way.
3.16.2007 5:00pm
Anderson (mail):
But who is Coca-Cola's nominee?

And as Margate suggests, Thompson would have to be pretty damn bored with the cola trade to subject himself to the confirmation hearings.
3.16.2007 5:06pm
anonVCfan:
David Lat is on the case.
3.16.2007 5:06pm
j..:
At least the Thompson memo isn't in effect anymore. Maybe the SEC's investigation of Frito-Lays rev rec practices has him appreciating the privilege a little more.
3.16.2007 5:10pm
Malvolio:
Am I the only one thinking of Fred Thompson for AG?
3.16.2007 5:42pm
Justin (mail):
Mavolio,

Given Fred Thompson's recent statements, including his recent statements backing the firings of the US Attorneys, he'd be unconfirmable. I doubt he'd want the job in any event.

As per Thompson, he's eminently confirmable, but I doubt the administration would want someone that is widely considered fairly independant and moderate.
3.16.2007 6:05pm
Ugh (mail):
Patrick J. Fitzgerald
3.16.2007 6:24pm
Just an Observer:
If we assume there will be a vacancy created by a resignation by Gonzales, what do we think President Bush's objective will be -- to restore confidence in independence and professionalism at the Justice Department, or to get past the immediate political crisis and get on with business? If the former, think of the example of President Ford's selection of Edward H. Levy as a model; if the latter, think of President Nixon's selection of Richard G. Kleindeinst.

The troubles at DOJ are much broader and deeper than the U.S. attorney controversy, and stem from the same root cause: Bush's cynical contempt for the law as something to be gamed to his advantage. There is a festering mess created by the lawyering that rationalized torture and warrantless surveillance, and avoids judicial review or even normal ethical scrutiny.

I think Bush is more like Nixon than Ford, and would have no interest in a truly independent and principled attorney general. A DOJ insider with a record on the accumulated controversies would have confirmation problems. Bush would probably look for an outsider who nevertheless is, in the DOJ vernacular of our time, a "loyal Bushie."

And then the administration can run out the clock: "All this should be done in 'good faith' of course."

Who wants that job?
3.16.2007 8:01pm
Christopher Cooke (mail):
I think Larry Thompson would be a good choice. As for the Thompson memorandum, people forget that it was really just a restatement of the Holder memorandum written by the former Deputy AG under Clinton. And, the memo was not so bad, it was really the way it has been applied in the SDNY USAO that has proven to be troublesome. For example, Thompson's memo did not say "you can't pay defense counsel fees for your employees or we will think it is obstruction of justice." But, that is how the USAO in New York interpreted it, when the memo said that the DOJ would look dimly at corporations that attempt to "circle the wagons" to impede an investigation.
3.16.2007 9:25pm
MDJD2B (mail):
If we assume there will be a vacancy created by a resignation by Gonzales, what do we think President Bush's objective will be — to restore confidence in independence and professionalism at the Justice Department, or to get past the immediate political crisis and get on with business?

The attorney general should not be independent. He is the adminsitration's chief legal officer. His priorities in litigation and prosecution should be in furtherance of the administration's overall policies. Being part of this or any other administration does not connote lack of professionalism

If the administrations wants to make voter fraud a priority, the local US attorneys should be on board. There is a limit to this, of course. I'm not proposing that the Justice Department ignore corruption and abuse by the party in power. This crosses the line from the independence question to the professionalism question.
3.16.2007 11:43pm
Zoe1 (mail):
MDJD2B,

What if the Administration wants to prosecute "voter fraud" not because it thinks there is a real problem, but rather because the Administration thinks such prosecutions can help the party in future elections?

Imagine this conversation:

AG: USA, We need to help the GOP in 2008. We need you to to prosecute some voter fraud cases to make sure we win your state in the next election.

USA: But I don't see any actual voter fraud crimes out there. This is B.S.

AG: Listen, USA, I didn't ask if you saw any actual voter fraud crimes. I said you need to bring some prosecutions. If you're not on board, we will replace you.


Tell us, MDJD2B, is this a question of "loyalty" or "professionalism"?
3.16.2007 11:52pm
Malvolio:

Given Fred Thompson's recent statements, including his recent statements backing the firings of the US Attorneys, he'd be unconfirmable.
I was mostly kidding, but those remarks, by the way, consisted of:
There was nothing wrong with firing eight U.S. attorneys. Of course the Department of Justice was inept in the way they did it, trying to conceal things that didn’t need to be concealed but the U.S. attorneys, like innumerable other public officials serve at the pleasure of the president. He fired eight of his own appointees apparently because they we not aggressive enough in pursuing voting fraud cases.
The Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president. They have ethical obligations -- as any professional does -- but not conducting investigations because the one possible result of the investigation might help their boss is not among them.
What if the Administration wants to prosecute "voter fraud" not because it thinks there is a real problem, but rather because the Administration thinks such prosecutions can help the party in future elections?
I am shocked, shocked that politics are involved in, um, politics.
3.17.2007 12:20am
Zoe1 (mail):
Malvolio,

Criminal prosecutions are not, um, politics.
3.17.2007 12:28am
Baseballhead (mail):
Tony Blankly, no friend to the left, said on the "Left, Right &Center" political radio show today that politics routinely play a role in USA appointments, but once appointed, the White House has to let the USAs do their thing without political interference. Once installed, the USAs may serve at the pleasure of the President, but they are servants of the people's interests, the interests of justice, and the Constitution. To try and re-direct USAs purely for the sake of political gain is to impede justice.
3.17.2007 5:50am
Just an Observer:
MDJD2B: The attorney general should not be independent. He is the adminsitration's chief legal officer.

Actually, no. The attorney general is the government's chief legal officer.

Gonzales claimed to to acknowledge that distinction at his confirmation hearing: “I will no longer represent only the White House,” he testified in 2005. “I will represent the United States of America and its people. I understand the differences between the two roles.” Unfortunately, he did not fulfill that promise.

MDJD2B, purporting to respond to my comment above, ignored its principal thrust, which was that the problem of lack of independence at DOJ is much more general than the controversy over firing U.S. attorneys.
3.17.2007 11:31am
Just an Observer:
As a footnote on this aging thread, on Meet the Press yesterday Sen. Schumer mentioned Thompson favorably among potential replacements for Gonzales (which probably guarantees it would never happen):

And, Tim, if they--if Attorney General Gonzales steps down, the White House has a real chance to clear the air, to restore faith that the rule of law will come first and politics second in the Justice Department, not the other way around, if they nominate somebody who, by their reputation and career, shows that they put rule of law first, a person like a Michael Mukasey, a person like a Larry Thompson, a person like a Jim Comey. These are conservative Republicans, but they put the rule of law first. And I hope that's what the White House will do.
3.19.2007 10:25am