The Volokh Conspiracy

Miles Davis Quintet Plays "'Round Midnight":
I've linked to a YouTube clip of the second Miles Davis Quintet before -- this was the famous quintet with Wayne Shorter, Herbie Hancock, Ron Carter, and Tony Williams that played together from 1964-1968. But last time the clip covered the band when they had just formed in 1964. Here's an excellent performance of the group playing late in their tenure; the tune is 'Round Midnight, and the place and time is Stockholm, 1967.
Ex parte McCardle:
Great clip, thanks for putting it up, although Miles would surely have insisted you call the tune "Round About Midnight." As Miles inimitably puts it in his autobiography, the second Quintet was "a motherfucker of a band."
5.17.2008 1:50pm
Twn (mail):
My only gripe with this group is that I never thought much of Shorter as a composer, and I don't much like his tenor tone, either.
5.17.2008 3:11pm
donaldk:
Way too "artistic" for me. I liked his 50's version with John Coltrane. One of the great renditions.

So I must be a square, though not from Delaware.
5.18.2008 9:09am
a knight (mail) (www):
Twn, does this mean you don't like the large body of work created by Weather Report? "Sweetnighter" is a classic that would have a hard time even being recognised without Shorter's work, and I am personally very fond of "I Sing The Body Electric", mostly because of its harder live feel that was missing in most of Weather Report's other releases. I'd have to go digging through liner notes, but my recollection is that Weather Report first appeared real early '70's, and this recording is listed as '67 in Stockholm.

Something else that ought to be thought about, given the time and place of this recording, is the effect that the cultural cold war had upon the Soviet's fall. The cultural cold war may have been the most elegant covert op ever effectuated by the CIA. We buried them.

Thanks Professor Kerr, Davis is a personal favorite of mine, as well as Shorter, Carter and Williams. Hancock to to lesser degree, though. It's a shame that YouTube forces 16bit single channel sound compression though.
5.19.2008 3:41am
Twn (mail):
a knight, I don't much care for Weather Report, but that really has more to do with that band's overall style than it does Shorter's writing or playing. From what I have heard by Weather Report, it seems that Shorter curtailed or minimalized his solos to contribute to an overall group feel.

Geez, now that I'm talking about him I feel the need to go back and listen to some of Shorter's early-mid 60's Blue Note records and re-assess. . . .
5.19.2008 12:12pm
a knight (mail) (www):
(Note: I aliased the Youtube links through TinyUrl to avoid jacking the thread with flash containers, in case this is done automatically at this site)

Sorry about the delay, Twn. I got tied up for a couple of days installing an open-source codebase onto a server for a friend, and ended up having to do some PHP tweaking unexpectedly. I'm not a PHP geek, so it required more effort than it should have. (amazing how the breeze freebie favors for friends, never seem to end-up being a breeze, eh?). Hopefully, you check your posts for back-filled replies.

There were two very distinct phases to Weather Report; pre-Pastorius and post-Pastorius. Some of their early work was out on the edge for its time, and still can give people fits. Throughout Weather Report's life though was intense percussion. Dom Um Romao was thoroughly whacked.

This is Shorter on Soprano though, so it isn't exactly relevant to your remark about his tenor sax.

Weather Report - 1972 (the date is suspect, because external references mention that Mouzon left the band in '71)

http://tinyurl.com/49bnjm

Joe Zawinul - keyboards
Wayne Shorter - sax
Miroslav Vitous - bass
Alphonze Mouzon - drums
Dom Um Romao - percussion

Here's another early Weather Report on YouTube, but the provenance is desperately lacking. It's live in Tokyo, January 13, 1972. (I cheated...)

http://tinyurl.com/5v37es

Some of the live from Tokyo performance was edited for length and released on "I Sing The Body Electric" (again, I cheated-same ref). "The Moors" or "Vertical Invader" are the cuts I'd recommend for showcasing Shorter. Shorter wrote "The Moors".

The minimalist tag on Shorter is not really correct. Some of the Davis work from the same era, could easily be tagged 'minimalist' too, and if anything Shorter was much more intimately intertwined with the base music/beat, than was Davis at that time. Davis tended to solo with cross tempo playing that drifted in and out over several bars at a time. Awesome stuff, and its influence can be heard in Shorter's music. From "Sweetnighter", "125th Street Congress" is a fine example.

As for Blue Note and Shorter; "Speak No Evil" was a release I picked-up in a discount bin for $0.99 in '72 or '73. I ended up losing it in the division of spoils during a relationship break-up. Funny things can happen to music collections that have been intermingled come break-up time, but I'm a pretty amicable guy, and she was very attached to the release. Discretion and Digression...
5.21.2008 11:42am
Twn (mail):
Thanks for the suggestions &url's, a knight.
5.21.2008 4:43pm
a knight (mail) (www):
Your welcome Twn. If you've replied to me before in this namespace, I apologise for not remembering. It's an intentional naivety. I prefer not to hold grudges, yet originally came to this space to battle what I believe to be The Federalist Society's traverse down an anti-libertarian path. To further both of these causes, it's best that I don't imprint the names of dissenters to my posts into memory.

A bit more context here though, because I sense a possibility that we will comment upon the same music thread started by Professor Kerr in the future.

I am full spectrum when it comes to music genres. Some fairly contemporary musicians that I respect: JayZ, Thurston Moore, Kid Rock, Alanis Morissette, Dave Feusi (if you understand this one, I am impressed), Ice Cube, 54 Nude Honeys, Greg Graffin, SCOTS, and Nickleback, to name just a few.

One of the more eclectic parts of my upbringing was The Music. My mother was an accomplished amateur flautist, as well as piano player, who was comfortable playing Protestant Hymns, Boogie Woogie, And classical. My father was an avid music fan, who leaned hard into big bands (Ella #1), and Vegas lounge (Prima, primo), but had a poor kept secret love of early Rockabilly. My professional training was primarily percussion,m but also included many years of keyboards (piano is percussion, btw). I even participated in Jr. Orchestras as a percussionist, at different times sitting 1st chair at snare, bass drum. timpani, and the odd ball addenda that is a part of different scores. When I returned from my stint in SE Asia, I chilled a bit drumming two traveling bands over a several year period, concentrating on University bar locales. The genre for this would best be described as Rock.

When I first became old enough to make my own decisions regarding personal music, the Jazz I preferred was Coltrane, Davis, and Dave Brubeck (<a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbUklDXdH2o">Joe Morello</a>. was too cool for words to describe).

There is much more, but this provides enough context. Don't worry about hurting my feelings, regarding personal music preferences, I'm pretty much immune to the criticisms.
5.23.2008 2:58pm