The Volokh Conspiracy

What did Obama Actually Promise to Disclose?

Barack Obama's promise to release a list of contacts “between the transition office and the governor’s office” commits to far less than people think. Indeed, it does not cover either of the two contacts authorized by Rod Blagojevich that were mentioned in the government's affidavit.

Nonetheless, the prevailing view is that, in his brief press conference yesterday, Barack Obama may have promised more than he can deliver.

In trying to meet the first rule of Washington scandal-management – get the facts out on your own terms, and fast – Obama may have promised something he’ll later regret, one expert warned.

“What they’re doing is either setting themselves up for inconsistencies, or creating a cache of evidence that otherwise wouldn’t exist. It never helps when you dig up the dirt in your own yard and you find stuff,” said Stan Brand, a top Washington defense lawyer.

But it’s important to parse what Obama actually said and compare it to what’s in the affidavit supporting the complaint.

I had no contact with the governor’s office. I did not speak to the governor about these issues, that I know for certain. What I want to do is to gather all the facts about any staff contacts that may have taken place between the transition office and the governor’s office, and we’ll have those in the next few days and we’ll present them. But what I’m absolutely certain about is that our office had no involvement in any deal-making around my Senate seat. That, I’m absolutely certain of, and that would be a violation of everything this campaign has been about. That’s not how we do business.

The complaint explicitly suggests two requested contacts between the Obama camp and the Governor’s camp:

1. Nov. 12: “109. On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH spoke with SEIU Official, who was in Washington, D.C. Prior intercepted phone conversations indicate that approximately a week before this call, ROD BLAGOJEVICH met with SEIU Official to discuss the vacant Senate seat, and ROD BLAGOJEVICH understood that SEIU Official was an emissary to discuss Senate Candidate 1’s interest in the Senate seat. . . .

ROD BLAGOJEVICH said that “one thing I’d be interested in” is a 501(c)(4) organization. ROD BLAGOJEVICH explained the 501(c)(4) idea to SEIU Official and said that the 501(c)(4) could help “our new Senator [Senate Candidate 1].” SEIU Official agreed to “put that flag up and see where it goes.”

110. On November 12, 2008, ROD BLAGOJEVICH talked with Advisor B. ROD BLAGOJEVICH told Advisor B that he told SEIU Official, “I said go back to [Senate Candidate 1], and, and say hey, look, if you still want to be a Senator don’t rule this out and then broach the idea of this 501(c)(4) with her.” . . .

2. Nov. 13: “ROD BLAGOJEVICH asked Advisor A to call Individual A and have Individual A pitch the idea of the 501(c)(4) to “[President-elect Advisor].” Advisor A said that, “while it’s not said this is a play to put in play other things.” ROD BLAGOJEVICH responded, “correct.””

The first contemplated contact is for the SEIU official (identified by the New York Times as Tom Balanoff) to contact Valerie Jarrett or another Obama aide. According to the Times, SEIU officials recently argued that “All the official did . . . was listen to Mr. Blagojevich and his chief of staff and ferry some messages for them.” If the Times is correct, then Balanoff did ferry messages from the Blagojevich camp to the Obama camp, essentially as requested.

But this contact would not be covered by Obama’s promised disclosure since it was not “between the transition office and the governor’s office.” Remember that Obama does not count indirect contacts as contacts, as his statement at his news conference makes clear.

Nor would the second contact be covered by Obama’s promise to disclose. That was between “Individual A” and a “President-elect Advisor,” not “between the transition office and the governor’s office.”

So the affidavit alleges two times that Blagojevich asks someone to convey his corrupt offer to the Obama camp. Neither was directly “between the transition office and the governor’s office,” so neither would be covered by Obama’s disclosure promise.

So what should we expect by way of disclosure from Obama?

Even though neither contact is covered by Obama’s disclosure promise, I expect him to disclose both of them (assuming they occurred). But beyond these two (which they can’t easily escape revealing), I expect them to disclose only a fraction of the other indirect contacts between the two camps. The more explicit the corrupt offer, the more likely it was conveyed indirectly, rather than directly.

The really interesting contact is the one that probably happened on Nov. 10, which likely caused the Obama camp to withdraw Jarrett’s name within hours of their being tipped off to the shakedown attempt.

The other big thing missing from the Obama disclosure promise is a commitment to reveal when he realized that he was being shaken down. Circumstantial evidence points to Nov. 10 as the date for this, but since Obama has denied any awareness of this, I don’t expect much from the disclosure on this issue.

When the Obama camp releases its internal report, again it will be important to read what it says — and what it doesn’t say — about the comprehensiveness of the list of contacts.

John (mail):
May I say something here? Why do some lawyers think it's a good thing to put parties' names in solid caps? It seems just crazy and always makes me think the writer is pretending he knows how "real" lawyers must do stuff.

Am I missing something?
12.13.2008 12:10am
Chico's Bail Bonds (mail):
Excellent post. This is further evidence that Obama is Malcolm X's love child, as discovered by Pat Atlas.
12.13.2008 12:11am
John (mail):
While I'm here, let me add that the use of an intermediary between the gov's office and the transition team is, in ordinary usage, embraced by the concept of contact between the two. Surely if the "intermediary" was a telephone we would have no argument, or if it was a mailman or a fed ex currier. Why is there no contact just because it is some other form of intermediary?
12.13.2008 12:13am
MartyA:
Yo, doofus, what have you been smoking/injecting? Hussein's Chicago pimps have hidden/concealed/censored EVERY bit of information that might reflect negatively on The One. No lie that he tells or crime that he commits is allowed to be disclosed!
12.13.2008 12:22am
glangston (mail):
How can he be so sure if he's not heard every fact of every contact? How's he going to deal with the intelligence community...?? Good luck young Padawan.

What I want to do is to gather all the facts about any staff contacts that may have taken place between the transition office and the governor’s office, and we’ll have those in the next few days and we’ll present them. But what I’m absolutely certain about is that our office had no involvement in any deal-making around my Senate seat. That, I’m absolutely certain of, and that would be a violation of everything this campaign has been about. That’s not how we do business.

12.13.2008 12:27am
James Lindgren (mail):
glangston,

I noticed that too.

I think Obama said that because his staff told him about the shakedown -- and he rejected it -- so he could be certain that his staff never agreed even tentatively to any corrupt bargain.
12.13.2008 1:34am
LM (mail):
John:

Surely if the "intermediary" was a telephone we would have no argument, or if it was a mailman or a fed ex currier. Why is there no contact just because it is some other form of intermediary?

Because you don't know how clearly, if at all, an intermediary represented his/her relationship with Blago or how specifically s/he communicated Blago's solicitation. If someone who Obama's rep doesn't know is speaking for Blago asks, "How much does Obama want his replacement preference deferred to?" and the rep. says, "It's just a preference. The choice is up to the Governor," and that's the extent of their conversation on that topic, is it a "contact?" Is every person who said or asked anything about the pending appointment to an Obama staffer, however brief, indirect or casual the conversation, assumed to be a Blago intermediary?
12.13.2008 2:10am
CB55 (mail):
This is a tempest in a tea spoon. Obama is no longer a US senator but is the president elect. Blago is the the state head of his party and as head of his party Obama did have an association with him. I have yet to read what would or how would Obama gain from Blago. Blago as a fellow Democrat would give the senate seat to a fellow Democrat. From the language Blago used to describe Obama and his camp, I do not think Blago was or is in love with Obama. Critics are looking for fire when they can not show smoke. They can not show any smoke or fire that links Obama to Blago in any pay for play deal.
12.13.2008 4:50am
Richard Aubrey (mail):
CB55.
Okay. What will be your defense when the stuff shows up in all its stinking glory?
12.13.2008 11:08am
early bird (mail):
Richard Aubrey,

"Okay. What will be your defense when the stuff shows up in all its stinking glory?"

We'll cross that bridge when, if, we ever come to it. Right now, that bridge isn't even on the horizon. The mother f*ckin' President Elect appears not exactly to have been Blago's BFF.
12.13.2008 11:40am
Randy R. (mail):
Wow. So the most you can get out of this is that Obama was inaccurate when he said said no contacts.

I only wish you parsed Gov. Palin's obvious lies as much. But then, the Republicans wouldn't like you as much.
12.13.2008 12:09pm
Judd (mail):
I'm wondering. Suppose for the moment that everything alleged or contemplated in this post and Lindgren's previous posts on this subject are true . . .AND that it is ALSO true (as the complaint so clearly suggests) that neither Obama nor his office agreed to engage in the nefarious plot. What have you accomplished in showing at the end of the day? That Obama's statements at a news conference are too narrow? That he is not, in fact, the bleeding edge of transparency? We've spilt tens of thousands of words on what amounts to little more than the parsing of words at a news conference without any serious or credible suggestion that Blogejevich's apparent recital of Obama's position was inaccurate. Seems like a lot of effort spent on a pretty thin gruel.
12.13.2008 6:25pm
Elliot123 (mail):
"Wow. So the most you can get out of this is that Obama was inaccurate when he said said no contacts.

I only wish you parsed Gov. Palin's obvious lies as much. But then, the Republicans wouldn't like you as much."


OK. What standard should be applied to Obama? The Republican Palin Standard, or the Democratic Palin Standard?

Does anyone know if a chief of staff has ever been hounded out before the the inaugeration?
12.13.2008 6:41pm

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