The Volokh Conspiracy

Roland Burris Decision by the Illinois Supreme Court:

Prof. Brian Kalt (Concurring Opinions) has more on this; I read the opinion earlier today, and I generally agree with Kalt's post.

Dave N (mail):
For those interested in the actual opinion, here it is. [EV: Added link to post.]

I predict Burris gets seated some time next week.
1.9.2009 10:15pm
Hoosier:
And Harry Reid looks incompetent. Again.
1.9.2009 10:23pm
RPT (mail):
While I generally agree that Reid is very weak, apparently Burris did not help himself with his impeachment testimony. It's not over yet.
1.9.2009 10:29pm
Syd Henderson (mail):
Very good. Now they can expel him at need.
1.9.2009 10:37pm
Bob from Ohio (mail):

Now they can expel him at need.


They won't have the votes. He has not done anything wrong, other than embarrass Reid and Durbin.

A tailor made situation for GOP trouble-making.

Next stop US District Court. Let's see if they can get Powell distinguished. Doubtful but you never know.
1.9.2009 10:46pm
harmon:
Roland. [EV: Whoops, thanks!]
1.9.2009 11:16pm
CrazyTrain (mail):
And Harry Reid looks incompetent. Again.

I know. Harry Reid looks has been such an incompetent, and his tenure as leader of the Senate Democrats has been an utter disaster. Exactly four years ago, he took over leadership of the Senate Democratic caucus as Minority Leader for the defeated Senator Daschle. There were 45 Senate Democrats. Now he is majority leader of 59. Real disaster; if only I could fail at leadership like that.
1.9.2009 11:42pm
BGates:
CrazyTrain, by that standard, you'd consider Bush's first four years a triumph as well, yes?

What are Reid's accomplishments over the past 4 years? I'd put "avoiding indictment" at the top of the list, that's getting to be a rare talent on that side of the aisle. Has he done anything legislatively?
1.10.2009 12:15am
Nick056:
This "Harry Reid is weak" anger mystifies me. Obviously conservatives have an interest in painting him as a bad senator, but why liberals go after him as a majority leader and organizer I don't know. The man gets results. 59-41 is the widest senate margin since the late 1970s and the 95th Congress. Yes, Bush's unpopularity is a factor, but are we to believe Reid acquired an almost 3/5th majority in a fit of absent-mindedness? Dean, Reid and Pelosi have all served the Democratic party effectively, capitalizing on discontent -- and yet Reid looks weak for, perhaps, not stripping Lieberman, or for expressing indignation at seating Blago's pick and at first refusing to do so.

My feeling is that, for most observers, this will play as Reid being obviously and righteously angry at Blago's moves but then conceding that, under the due process of law, it was a lawful appointment. (That's assuming Burris is seated.)
1.10.2009 12:30am
man from mars:
Just for the record, I was the only one here to predict how the Illinois Supreme Court would rule on this. Brian Kalt predicted wrong as well.

I wrote "No Illinois court will grant mandamus to the benefit of such an unpopular person as Blagojevic" in this post.

The problem with most of the legal analysis here is that it's just that - it only asks "what is the law?" But legal analysis ignores the power of media image in determining how judges and legislators actually rule.

In today's world, a televised press conference has more persuasive value all the statutes and Supreme Court precedents in the world.
1.10.2009 12:38am
man from mars:
By the way, the flaw in the Court's reasoning is that it is substituting its own evidentiary standards for those of the Senate. The Senate, as the judge of a return, has the authority to determine what evidence it will accept to prove the appointment. What the Illinois Supreme Court views as a proper evidentiary standard is completely irrelevant to the constitutional text. It simply has no jurisdiction over the Senate.

Powell is no help here, because in Powell the court only held that Congress could not augment constitutionally specified requirements: the word "Qualifications" was already defined in the Constitution, and the Senate was adding new substantive requirements. Here, the Constitution provides no requirement for what a valid "Return" is and so the Senate can view that it does not trust a "Return" unless there is a SoS signature.
1.10.2009 12:59am
Cornellian (mail):
The Senate, as the judge of a return, has the authority to determine what evidence it will accept to prove the appointment.

The Illinois Supreme Court didn't say otherwise, just that, under Illinois law, Burris had been properly appointed. It suggested that ought to be good enough for the Senate, but didn't rule on that question, or claim that it had the jurisdiction to do so.
1.10.2009 2:34am
David M. Nieporent (www):
Nick and CrazyTrain: perhaps some people don't view the acquistion of power as an end in itself? It's telling that the sole thing you could come up with as an accomplishment for Reid is that the Senate now has a lot of Democrats in it. Setting aside how much credit Reid deserves for that, it's not actually anything substantive.


Man from mars:
By the way, the flaw in the Court's reasoning is that it is substituting its own evidentiary standards for those of the Senate. The Senate, as the judge of a return, has the authority to determine what evidence it will accept to prove the appointment. What the Illinois Supreme Court views as a proper evidentiary standard is completely irrelevant to the constitutional text. It simply has no jurisdiction over the Senate.
That would be a "flaw" if there were some dispute about "evidentiary standards," but there isn't. Nobody in the Senate, let alone the Senate as a whole, is debating whether Blagojevic actually appointed Burris.

Here, the Constitution provides no requirement for what a valid "Return" is and so the Senate can view that it does not trust a "Return" unless there is a SoS signature.
Whether the Senate "can" do that or not, it has not done so, as the Illinois Court points out. There is no actual requirement for a SoS signature in the Senate rules.

And Powell is a help, because it points out that Congress cannot augment constitutionally specified requirements. In this case, the 17th amendment, which says that state legislatures, not the Senate, decide how to fill vacancies. If a state legislature says the governor gets to make the appointment, the Senate cannot overrule that decision and require that the SoS approve the appointment as well.
1.10.2009 2:41am
man from mars:
One interesting procedural wrinkle is that for the purposes of the mandamus hearing, Burris wants to argue the signature of the SoS is required. But if he does not get the signature, he will want to argue in federal court that that the signature is not required.

Would a Burris argument in state court that a signature was required have had any estoppel effect in a later federal proceeding? If so that may be why he did not argue to forcefully on that point in Illinois.
1.10.2009 4:04am
Brian Kalt (mail):

Just for the record, I was the only one here to predict how the Illinois Supreme Court would rule on this. Brian Kalt predicted wrong as well.

I wrote "No Illinois court will grant mandamus to the benefit of such an unpopular person as Blagojevic" in this post.

The problem with most of the legal analysis here is that it's just that - it only asks "what is the law?" But legal analysis ignores the power of media image in determining how judges and legislators actually rule.

In today's world, a televised press conference has more persuasive value all the statutes and Supreme Court precedents in the world.

man from mars,

You are right that my prediction (which I made on the radio; I don't recall blogging about it until I admitted it in the post that EV linked) was wrong. But I think that you were wrong too. The Illinois Supreme Court's ruling did not give the mandamus, but it was clearly "to the benefit" of Blagojevich. It chastised the U.S. Senate repeatedly, and consistently reaffirmed the validity of Blagojevich's action. So I'm not really sure how you can see this decision as backing you up here.
1.10.2009 8:07am
DiverDan (mail):
Notwithstanding the comments above about the "flaw" in the Court's reasoning, the Illinois Supreme Court only addressed Illinois law, and, I think, reached the proper conclusion. It went out of its way to point out that Burris had an alternate (and far easier) way to get the Secretary of State's signature and seal - pay for a certified copy of the Gubernatorial Appointment, which includes both the signature and seal of the Illinois Secretary of State. Jesse White was (and is) statutorily obligated to issue that Certificate of Appointment once he has registered the Appointment, which he did the day after he received it from Blago. While I agree that the decision makes Reid and the other Senate Dems that kept Burris off the floor on Tuesday look bad, it also makes Burris's lawyers look a little stupid. After I read the SOS's initial response to the Application for Mandamus, I really wondered why Burris continued to fight this - just send a paralegal with a check to the Illinois SOS office to get a Certificate of the Appointment to present to the Secretary of the Senate. It reminded me of the Movie "Operation Petticoat", where the Tony Curtis character tells the Captain, Cary Grant, "the guys in Vegas would tell you that you're trying to make your point the hard way."
1.10.2009 10:00am
man from mars:
The issue is not whether the appointment in fact occurred or is in fact valid. The issue is whether it has a valid Return. The Senate can judge a Return. The Illinois Supreme Court, by contrast, has no jurisdiction to judge a Return for the purposes of Article 1, Section 5.

All the Illinois court did was point out that in its view, the Senator was validly appointed. But the Senate can still read that opinion, and say "this is not a Return." Whether the Senate believes the appointment was valid is irrelevant.

One specific problem with the Illinois Supreme Court's theory might be (I don't know) that the Senate requires a signature, whereas the Court's suggestion would only yield a copy of the signature, not the signature itself.

The point is that the Court's opining about evidentiary principles and the Senate's constitutional role was all ultra vires. In rejecting Burris, the Senate made an interpretation of the rules. The Illinois Supreme Court cannot be second-guessing the Senate's own Rules. The parsing of the word "recommended" and the constitutional arguments are completely irrelevant to the issue of whether the Senate can or cannot reject the return.
1.10.2009 10:32am
ChrisIowa (mail):
Burris will be seated when Reid needs the vote.
1.10.2009 11:09am
Brian Kalt (mail):
man from mars,

The word "recommended" in Rule 2 isn't irrelevant at all if the Senate leadership purported to base its rejection of the return on Rule 2. Which it did.

Also, your argument might work if the full Senate had voted, but it hasn't. The Senate hasn't voted on (let alone rejected) the return yet, so the ILSC's opining on the validity of the return seems perfectly warranted to me.
1.10.2009 11:12am
David M. Nieporent (www):
Would a Burris argument in state court that a signature was required have had any estoppel effect in a later federal proceeding? If so that may be why he did not argue to forcefully on that point in Illinois.
No; asserting a particular fact may, in some cases, have an estoppel effect. Arguing that a particular law means X does not estop you -- after a court rules against you -- from claiming it means not-X later.
1.10.2009 11:24am
David M. Nieporent (www):
The issue is not whether the appointment in fact occurred or is in fact valid. The issue is whether it has a valid Return. The Senate can judge a Return. The Illinois Supreme Court, by contrast, has no jurisdiction to judge a Return for the purposes of Article 1, Section 5.

All the Illinois court did was point out that in its view, the Senator was validly appointed. But the Senate can still read that opinion, and say "this is not a Return." Whether the Senate believes the appointment was valid is irrelevant.
You seem to think a "Return" is a physical document that the Senate evaluates to see whether it was counterfeit, like a $100 bill that a store puts in one of those scanners. In fact, the issue iswhether the appointment in fact occurred or is in fact valid; that's what judging the return means.

Otherwise, Congress could simply circumvent Powell by setting up some requirement for newly-elected members that the states don't meet, and then claiming that the person can't be seated because he hasn't fulfilled the requirement for a valid return. ("Returns must be signed by the state surgeon general to be valid. Yours isn't. We're not seating you. What? Oh, you say that your state doesn't have a surgeon general? Too bad. We've judged your Return to be invalid, and we can't be questioned on that.") Sorry, but Powell says that they can't create additional qualifications.

One specific problem with the Illinois Supreme Court's theory might be (I don't know) that the Senate requires a signature, whereas the Court's suggestion would only yield a copy of the signature, not the signature itself.
1) What distinction do you think you're drawing here? A copy of a signature is a signature.
2) As the Illinois Supreme Court points out, the Senate does not require a signature. It's a recommended form, not a required one. Nonetheless, I would agree that if the Senate had rejected Burris's nomination on that basis, the Illinois Court would be powerless to overrule that misreading of the Rule. But the Senate didn't do any such thing.
1.10.2009 11:57am
Bob from Ohio (mail):
Reid is a good majority leader because other people have gotten elected to the Senate?

Ok, if you say so.

I thought you measured success as majority leader by how well the Senate performed. Or how well you did in getting your agenda done.

By either measure, he has not done too well.

To be slightly fair, being majority leader is like herding cats.
1.10.2009 1:14pm
therut (mail):
One reason Reid LOOKS weak to me is his manliness factor is ZERO. Even Senator Byrd APPEARS to be more testosterone blessed.
1.10.2009 4:15pm
Houston Lawyer:
Can anyone name a single voter who said he voted Democrat because of the job Ried has done as majority leader? I'd be willing to bet that 9 out of 10 democratic voters couldn't pick him out of a lineup of 2.

I predicted early on that Ried would once again be forced to eat crow on this appointment. He never disapoints.
1.10.2009 7:01pm
ReaderY:
A certified copy of the Registration of Appointment bearing the state seal etc.?

Burris and his legal team must be looking kind of sheepish at each other and saying "Man! How come we didn't think of that one ourselves?"
1.10.2009 8:24pm
subpatre (mail):
ReaderY writes: Burris and his legal team must be looking kind of sheepish at each other and saying "Man! How come we didn't think of that one ourselves?"

Ummm, no. Right after Burris forced Reid to bar him, Burris and his team just got a Supreme Court to say that Reid —the wimpy guy, the 'no blacks in my Senate' guy— was cheating and lying to keep Burris from his rightful, lawful appointed position. A Supreme Court ruling; it doesn't get much better than that.

They aren't playing politics or playing the media; it's both at once. Blagojevic and Burris are looking shrewder and more competent every day. Not only will Burris be seated, but he will carry his faction (certainly Jackson and Rush, possibly even Blagojevic) to win in the next elections.

BTW, with the focus on Illinois, has anyone looked at how Reid's polling in Nevada?
1.10.2009 9:42pm
ReaderY:
Agreed. In this context, a state Supreme Court opinion plus a signature definitely beats a signature.
1.11.2009 10:10am
man from mars:
Well, but there's no signature. There is only a copy of a signature. These are not the same.

There are many legal instruments in which only an original document is allowed. Under the best evidence rule, for example, copies in certain situations are not allowed. I doubt most federal agencies allow copies of signatures - does the IRS? What about filings with the court? Or bank checks? Or wills?

It seems to me there are four different issues between discussed:

A. Was Burris's appointment valid?

Yes. But the issue isn't whether is is valid; the issue is who is judging that fact, an Illinois Court or the Senate.

B. Did the Senate determine Burris needed the SoS signature on a particular form?

Probably.

On the one hand, there was no formal vote to bar Burris and the rules are ambiguous.

On the other hand, the Secretary of the Senate in barring Burris was acting as an agent for the Senate, and the Senate later ratified his acts by not objecting to them (or by not allowing Burris in).

Furthermore, the force of 140 years of Senate tradition is a strong argument in favor of the Senate's interpretation being that a signature is required.

I think that "Yes" is the stronger answer here.

C. Is the Senate's requirement ultra vires under Article 1, Section 5?

Maybe not. If the Senate views a "Report" as a particular report on an appointment, then under Article 1, Section 5, it can require an original signature on that report as a condition of validity. It can view the signature as an authentication, if you like. Of course, it is more reasonable in this case for the Senate to allow the lack of a signature, but that does not mean that if it refuses to so allow, it is acting illegally or that there is any judicial remedy. This point can be litigated under Powell but is distinguishable.


D. Does the Illinois Supreme Court have authority to interpret Senate rules?

No.

Judging returns is expressly made part of Article 1, Section 5.

Courts disagree with factual determinations of matters in other jurisdictions all the time.

Does anyone or any judge outside a few courts actually think the WM3 guys are guilty, or that Beatty Chadwick has $2.5M? Probably not.

But jurisdiction always trumps facts in the law. An Illinois court cannot, for example, order a West Virginia prisoner released because in its assessment of fact - no matter how completely clear and irrebutable - the prisoner is innocent. This is true even if there was sworn testimony, video footage, the whole works: there is no jurisdiction. And even if the West Virginia courts agreed with the Illinois Court - what Illinois thinks has no bearing. A felon in West Virginia is still one in Illinois, even if Illinois can prove the felon is innocent.

Similarly here, the Illinois Supreme Court has made a great argument for why the appointment is valid, but the Senate need not listen to the argument. It should, of course, as the decision was persuasive and correct on that point, but it need not.
1.12.2009 2:25am
David M. Nieporent (www):
Well, but there's no signature. There is only a copy of a signature. These are not the same.
Sure they are. Now, a "copy of a signature" is not the same as an "original signature," but "signature" and "original signature" are not synonymous.
There are many legal instruments in which only an original document is allowed. Under the best evidence rule, for example, copies in certain situations are not allowed. I doubt most federal agencies allow copies of signatures - does the IRS? What about filings with the court? Or bank checks? Or wills?
Unless there is evidence that the copy is in some way inauthentic, the best evidence rule (at least in federal practice) does not distinguish between originals and photocopies.

Since virtually all federal court filings are via ECF (electronic), virtually all federal court filings involve copies of signatures, as well as electronic signatures. One can file electronically with the IRS, too.

B. The Senate did not determine that Burris needed the SoS's signature; one cannot infer that they did from a mere temporary failure to overturn a clerk's decision. (In fact, they're almost certainly going to seat him.) Nor are the rules "ambiguous" on this point; there is simply nothing in them requiring a signature.

C.
If the Senate views a "Report" as a particular report on an appointment, then under Article 1, Section 5, it can require an original signature on that report as a condition of validity.
I assume you meant "Return," but I don't believe there's any legal basis for your argument. They could look at one particular Senator's document and determine that, because it lacked a particular signature when the relevant state's law required such a signature, it must be inauthentic; they cannot establish a categorical rule that a return must have such a signature. Nothing in the Constitution allows them to grant power to a state Secretary of State to veto a gubernatorial appointment.
1.12.2009 12:15pm
ReaderY:
I think Powell controls here.
1.12.2009 11:41pm

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